He just never learns.
Darling of the Righteous Right, large blogger David Farrar has again made the idiotic claim that the Greens intend to "kill cows" as part of their economic plan.
What a clown, a clumsy, flailing-about, un-funny clown.
Farrar has done exactly the same thing before, made the same stupid claim the last time the Greens showed signs of popularity and he's trying it again on his latest post at Kiwiblog.
What a klutz.
"Kill the dairy cows", Farrar says.
One of his readers has a brain though, and countered with,
"National Party policy then, is, "Kill the rivers"."
That's a well-deserved response.
Tuesday, June 5, 2012
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Name calling Robert. Not a good look for a Councillor.
It's dreadful, I know. I just don't like it when somone in an influential position creates a false impression by telling untruths. At times like that, I take the chance of looking un-Councillor-ish, and call them for what they are.
Sorry but 2 wrongs make a wrong.
Perhaps you should talk about it on the Radio... Say 7am Saturday?
I will, if I get the chance. I always try to slip in something political or controversial during my chat with Tony. Often, I can bend the discussion toward climate change. I've found the audience responds well, as does Helen! She's quite the greenie.
Were you head prefect when you were at school?
"I just don't like it when somone in an influential position creates a false impression by telling untruths."
"Often, I can bend the discussion toward climate change"
Oh the irony!
Not accepting the science around climate change, Anonymous?
I'm not surprised at all. You strike me as the blinkered sort. With Co2 levels at over 400 parts per million now, given that the recommended safe upper limit is 350ppm, I tire of nay-sayers like yourself and your foolish head-in-the-sand burying that will condemn our children and theirs to a very unpleasant global environment.
:-)
Head prefect? Hardly. But I was good at sticking up for people when I saw bullying behaviour.
Anonymous I like your style.
Q: Why did the chemist sole and heel his shoes with silicone rubber?
A: To reduce his carbon footprint.
Are you Robin Hood?
You'll be opposed to National's tax-cuts for the rich then. You won't think much of the Government's very generous monetary 'contributions' to private schools either.
Welcome aboard, comrade!
I thought cobblers 'soled and heeled' shoes?
Chemists?
Good joke though, Anonymous.
Anonymous @ 4:15
Are you 'sticking up' for Farrar?
Hahahahaha!
Nice one.
Robert, In such a way that suggests name calling is clearly not appropriate. I have not formed an opinion on his views other than to say the "kill the cows" claims contains little detail to back up the claims.
It's an outright lie.
Hence my post.
Robbert, I think you asked if I was Robin hood? Too many anons.
Tax cuts. Have not formed an opinion.
Monetary contributions. Have not formed an opinion.
Comrade???? From Wikipedia: Comrade means "friend", "colleague", or "ally".
Am I your colleague or ally? If you are using it in the socialist form. I can assure you I am not a socialist. And I didn't know you were one. Do you have a secret handshake too?
Anonymous@4:46
I do have a secret handshake, of course. One day, when we meet...
"Comrade" was a joke, a jest, a jibe, meant good-naturedly. You take things so seriously, comrade. Chill :-)
You'll have heard of the Robin Hood tax, surely. What do you think? Good idea?
Robert. I only speak in areas of expertise. Politics is not an area of interest for me. In my opinion there are too many people willing to propose a theory without researching the topic. I dont want to join that tirade comrade.
You are a wise man, Anonymous@5:32.
Wiser than me.
The reality is that Farrar is as far right as you are far left, with the truth sitting somewhere in the middle.
You sound like peter Dunne, Towack.
A blank sheet onto which anybody could write anything, so long as it's sensible.
Though he is a worm :-)
Farrar isn't that far right, he actually hates true conservatives and is NZ's most vociferous campaigner for the redefinition of marriage (an institution he appears have no personal interest in whatsoever).
The same liberal elite run both sides of the divide, the only point where differences emerge is economics.
Good comment, Shunda.
You're running hot.
I didnt mean that Farrar is truely far right, just as far right as Mr RG is left.
As for Peter Dun, his party started off exciting and ended up boring.
Think I'll vote for the conservatives, he looks like a plonker and that means great fun for us on the sidelines.
BTW - I read Farrars post - its quite good
Quite good..but contains a lie. My point.
Farrar and I have 'debated' this same point years ago when he first tried to get it to fly. He was weak in his effort to bat me off, because it was patently obvious that he was bullsh*tting. Still, he doesn't give up easily. here he is, trying the old line again. Plonker.
Farmers are not particularly squeamish when it comes to killing cows. For dry stock beef farmers, the slaughter of stock (at the works) is an essential part of getting paid. It's pretty important for dairy farmers too, as we will witness en masse when the milking season starts again in July.
So, who wants to kill cows? Farmers.
If Green policy was to include reducing dairy herds by 20%, what would be the fate of that 20%?
anonymous -
cmon now, supply and demand.
Lets say there really *is* a mandate to reduce the numbers of animals we cruelly bring into such a miserable existence as "Animal Agriculture" -
"“And even the miserable lives we lead are not allowed to reach their natural span. For myself I do not grumble, for I am one of the lucky ones. I am twelve years old and have had over four hundred children. Such is the natural life of a pig. But no animal escapes the cruel knife in the end. You young porkers who are sitting in front of me, every one of you will
scream your lives out at the block within a year. To that horror we all must come–cows, pigs, hens, sheep, everyone. Even the horses and the dogs have no better fate. You, Boxer, the very day that those great muscles of yours lose their power, Jones will sell you to the knacker, who will cut your throat and boil you down for the foxhounds. As for the dogs, when they grow old and toothless, Jones ties a brick round their necks and drowns them in the nearest pond."
"Animal Farm", George Orwell
http://www.invsoc.org.nz/vegan-faq/
Lets say a 20 percent reduction is indeed called for - do you believe we will go to the great trouble of cataloging "sexed semen" etc, and forced impregnation just to then *kill* the babies as soon as they leave their mothers bodies? No, they simply wont be "supplied" in the first place, due to lessened "demand" :-)
Think of it when you let a magazine subscription lapse, you simply stop receiving a "new issue" each month, so would currently living "stock" cease to be replaced *to the same current numbers*.
Its a once off thing, although I'm hoping such "once off" reductions continue until we hit rock bottom :-)
You see, Anonymous. The application of a little thought, reflection and logic exposes the scare-mongery from Farrar for what it is - empty. Armchair Critic and Jordan show how easy it is to see through the smoke, if only you try.
AC - nice twist to that tale.
Jordan - you are becoming the Vegan to be Reckoned With!
anon - simple, the 20% won't be born, and the reduction would occur through attrition.
That nice Mr Key suggested the same general concept for capping the size of the public service - stop hiring and let numbers fall as people retire or move to a new role. I have no doubt Farrar thought Mr Key's idea was entirely sensible.
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